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Author Topic: Class 150's For Portsmouth - Cardiff?? Shame On You , FGW!  (Read 11546 times)
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« on: March 20, 2007, 13:15:18 »

Having caught the 1030 Fratton - Trowbridge (as part of my journey to a certain council meeting , see http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg4208#msg4208) I couldnt help but notice that it was a Class 150 unit (and not the normal Class 158.)

Poor show , FGW (First Great Western).

This isnt the first time that this has happened on my way to that particular part of the world. In fact something always seems to be amiss when I board a FGW train! Previous cock - ups have included :

Door failures.

Engine failures.

Trains appearing on information screens as "on - time" and then not turning up at all (a Westbury favourite , I notice.)

Getting stuck behind a freight train (on more than one occasion.)

And many more besides....
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2007, 15:56:34 »

No 158's available, so a 150 instead nowt to do with charges
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2007, 21:24:44 »

Lucky it wasn't a 143, the normal replacement around Bristol if the 158's are a bit poorly,
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2007, 07:03:15 »

Incorect, Pacers are NOT allowed to run south of Warminster, I have only once seen 143 vice 158 though
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2007, 09:17:18 »

Even luckier then as FGW (First Great Western) don't have the option.

From my view of Filton a 143 attached to a 158 to make up 4 cars to Cardiff is  not an uncommon sight. Whether that particular diagram should have been all 158's it's difficult to tell.

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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2007, 11:31:26 »

It was certainly an interesting day.

A 150 is working the 1430 Caridff - Pompey & 1810 back (1910 from Soton)

I can also confirm that the 1610 Portsmouth - Cardiff & 1630 Cardiff - Portsmouth services were worked by 2 x Class 158 units.

Its a funny old world....
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2007, 07:14:15 »

Good Lee, they are both booked 4 car!
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2007, 15:54:33 »

Incorect, Pacers are NOT allowed to run south of Warminster, I have only once seen 143 vice 158 though

Jim do you know why that is?  It it incase they get conk out too far from their depot?

I Don't know the reason, but they are not allowed on "southern" metals, from our area that is bounded by Yeovil & Beechgrove (Warminster)
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2007, 17:41:43 »

Jim do you know why that is?  It it incase they get conk out too far from their depot?

I understood that it's because they nod too much.  Can't go into 3rd Rail territory .... but then that doesn't explain why they can't go to Salisbury.   I think I've seen references to the rule being broken, though.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2007, 23:32:53 »

Jim do you know why that is?  It it incase they get conk out too far from their depot?

I understood that it's because they nod too much.  Can't go into 3rd Rail territory .... but then that doesn't explain why they can't go to Salisbury.   I think I've seen references to the rule being broken, though.

They ARE NOT permitted on Southern Region Metals - FULL STOP. bounded by (again) Beechgrove (Warminster) & Yeovil
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2007, 13:58:34 »

Good Lee, they are both booked 4 car!

Not so good when (according to a fairly reliable source) Class 150's are replacing Class 158's on Portsmouth - Cardiff services because said 158's are being sent back to the leasing companies (allegedly.)
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2007, 16:51:23 »

Good Lee, they are both booked 4 car!

Not so good when (according to a fairly reliable source) Class 150's are replacing Class 158's on Portsmouth - Cardiff services because said 158's are being sent back to the leasing companies (allegedly.)

I think someone has got you going on gone off cheese there, I have heard tottaly the opposite, 150's are not suited for Cardiff Portsmoth
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2007, 18:00:58 »

I think someone has got you going on gone off cheese there, I have heard tottaly the opposite, 150's are not suited for Cardiff Portsmoth

To be absolutely precise , I will re - word that as follows :

Not so good when (according to a fairly reliable source) Class 150's are replacing Class 158's on SOME Portsmouth - Cardiff services because said 158's are being sent back to the leasing companies (allegedly.)

I am well aware that Class 150's are not suitable , Jim , so how come I seem to have to keep putting up with them when I travel from Portsmouth to your part of the world?

That said , you will note that I classed this particular source as "fairly reliable"............
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2007, 18:41:02 »

I have only noticed 1 in the last week
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2007, 09:11:59 »

150's were occasional visitors even with Wessex, but that was due to 158 failures. They were quite interesting journeys with a trolley on-board.

It's another ball game completely if FGW (First Great Western) are going to start running them regularly.
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